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the deficit then was nearly as big and that deficit was almost erased. how did roosevelt do that? created social security and levied heavier taxes, programs for housing and agriculture, put new controls over banks, public utilities and created enormous work relief programs for the unemployed. sounds similar to the president's proposals today, but unlike the last four years fdr saw the unemployment drop, millions of jobs created, gdp jumped, the deficit shrank and the middle class saw a huge expansion that lasted for decades, a building of the middle class that's the envy of the world or used to be. peter, peter morici, can this feat of rebuilding the middle class and reducing the deficit, can that happen again? >> absolutely, but we have to remember that roosevelt inherited a very small government, so expanding it wasn't the rock on the back of the private sector. a more comparable situation was reag reagan's dilemma, inherited an economy with double digit inflation and interest rates and unemployment that peaked at 10.8%, not 10 as mr. obama's did, but hy he took his stimulus in
the deficit then was nearly as big and that deficit was almost erased. how did roosevelt do that? created social security and levied heavier taxes, programs for housing and agriculture, put new controls over banks, public utilities and created enormous work relief programs for the unemployed. sounds similar to the president's proposals today, but unlike the last four years fdr saw the unemployment drop, millions of jobs created, gdp jumped, the deficit shrank and the middle class saw a huge...
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one is deficit reduction, one is tax cuts. cuts ie w we'll do deficit reduction. gwen: there's anoth numbe $716 million to deal with medicare but it's coming from different places and going to different places and trefore th fin - of de u in a draw. >> for the president's health care plan, in order to fund it they assumed savings over 10 years of $716 billion for medicare. mitt romney called that a cut in medicare as if it was a cut in beneficiaries. it's meant to come from providers. however, what romney was saying is that if you take that much from providers, some of them are going to stop taking medicare parents. the trick for him is that paul ryan, his running mate, also assumed the same $716 billion. gwen: and i believe romney's answer to that was i'm the candidate. >> i'm the boss. we're going to put that money back into medicare. gwen: going into these debates we were all probably guilty of setting the expectations bar and it was pretty high for president obama. i think the polls before showed him like 51% thought he was going to win. win.thought romney was
one is deficit reduction, one is tax cuts. cuts ie w we'll do deficit reduction. gwen: there's anoth numbe $716 million to deal with medicare but it's coming from different places and going to different places and trefore th fin - of de u in a draw. >> for the president's health care plan, in order to fund it they assumed savings over 10 years of $716 billion for medicare. mitt romney called that a cut in medicare as if it was a cut in beneficiaries. it's meant to come from providers....
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because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increasthe deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? ♪ >>> i was wondering what dogs song we were going to pick for this story. loyalty is one of the reasons we love dogs. what this dog, whose named zander, tried to do was truly extraordinary. when zander's owner went to the hospital, he tracked him down. i was playing with zander. turns out, white shedding dogs and black suits, don't go so well. >> everybody in the studio is falling in love with zander this morning. good morning, america. i'm bianna golodryga, along with dan harris on this saturday, october 6th. >>> also this morning, the iconic game show, "the price is right," is doing something it's never done before. the show has been a favorite for decades. known as much for the models as the amazing prizes. you may be amazed seeing the newest face. >> i loved being sick on sick days watching "the price is right." >>> we're going to start with a teacher/student sex scandal, one that allegedly goes all the
because according to experts, he'd have to raise taxes on the middle class - or increasthe deficit to pay for it. if we can't trust him here... how could we ever trust him here? ♪ >>> i was wondering what dogs song we were going to pick for this story. loyalty is one of the reasons we love dogs. what this dog, whose named zander, tried to do was truly extraordinary. when zander's owner went to the hospital, he tracked him down. i was playing with zander. turns out, white shedding...
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enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math, it's arithmetic. >> get the rates down, lower deductions and exemptions to create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget to have more people working, earning more money and paying taxes and that's by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. >> paul: welcome to the journal editorial report. i'm paul gigot. a big night in denver on wednesday, as president barack obama, and mitt romney met for the first presidential debate and the candidates sparred as you heard over taxes and the deficit as well as health care. wall street reform and the role of government. with mitt romney taking some sharp shots at the president's record these past four years. >> we're seeing right now is, in my view, a trickle down government approach which has government thinking it can do a better job than free people pursuing their dreams and that's not working the. proof of that is 23 million people out of
enough deductions and loopholes that only affect high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math, it's arithmetic. >> get the rates down, lower deductions and exemptions to create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget to have more people working, earning more money and paying taxes and that's by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. >> paul: welcome to the...
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question as to whether he would run for although term because he would be just presiding over years of deficits and budget. bl >> belva: dan, what about the state? what shape will the state be in? because this is all about services to people. >> well, i think they'll be in a big pickle. they are going to be in a situation unless the economy picks up very dramatically and there are absolutely no signs that california is going to come to boom any time soon. then, what you are dealing with here is basically a state budget that is anywhere between 10% and 15% out of whack. that the revenues are 10% to 15% below their spending commitments. and that's going to be very, very painful. you're going to see it in a lot of things. but you know, there's -- on the other hand, and there is always another hand in politics, if he's successful and gets this thing passed, he also runs the risk of kind of a volatility. he's basically betting the state's future on a handful, basically, 150,000 california taxpayers, out of 38 million people, that they are going to do well enough to raise all this money that he think
question as to whether he would run for although term because he would be just presiding over years of deficits and budget. bl >> belva: dan, what about the state? what shape will the state be in? because this is all about services to people. >> well, i think they'll be in a big pickle. they are going to be in a situation unless the economy picks up very dramatically and there are absolutely no signs that california is going to come to boom any time soon. then, what you are dealing...
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so it creates a type of deficit disorder. so reading something, you're looking, clicking through, moving on, having five screens open at once. and finally, it is replacing real-life relationships and real-life communication skills. it reduces social intelligence and emotional intelligence, because you're just busy taking in information. >> but won't we adjust? i mean, humans adjust, as time progresses you will adjust to it. >> you will adjust to having more faulty real-life relationships, yes. >> i noticed people used to go to a coffee shop, or a bar, to hang out with people. now, people are chatting on line. is this a real thing? or are we just caught up in this addict society? or an addict nation? because everybody is addicted to something. >> you know it is a new substance to become addicted to. but people who are unable to self-regulate, and experience the withdrawals, it is a very real thing, don. >> so are there people who specialize in the behavior? >> anybody who experiences it can be treated, but look at your own fam
so it creates a type of deficit disorder. so reading something, you're looking, clicking through, moving on, having five screens open at once. and finally, it is replacing real-life relationships and real-life communication skills. it reduces social intelligence and emotional intelligence, because you're just busy taking in information. >> but won't we adjust? i mean, humans adjust, as time progresses you will adjust to it. >> you will adjust to having more faulty real-life...
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when people talk about the deficit -- it is not the deficit or debt but joblessness which is the great crisis of our times. the deficit and debt did not arrive from some inaccurate conception. two unfunded wars, medicare part d. let them speak to that. mitt romney has it fantastical approach to arithmetic. at the bottom of it, there is a commitment and an ideology to insuring that the top 1% make out real well. those most vulnerable at the bottom of the society who need a helping hand in times of fiscal economic crisis are put aside. it is ideological and i think the term "common-sense" is a terrific one to achieve and try to revive that one as you talk to c-span and agitate your committee. host: let's go back to the bus. john, what is your question? >> how is mitt romney going to be able to win independent voters after he alienated them in the primary? guest: i think that debate over night, which you watched as a student of political science and journalism -- he pivoted to some of the positions that he explicitly set aside during the primaries, where he became truly one of the most --
when people talk about the deficit -- it is not the deficit or debt but joblessness which is the great crisis of our times. the deficit and debt did not arrive from some inaccurate conception. two unfunded wars, medicare part d. let them speak to that. mitt romney has it fantastical approach to arithmetic. at the bottom of it, there is a commitment and an ideology to insuring that the top 1% make out real well. those most vulnerable at the bottom of the society who need a helping hand in times...
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you're going to have $1 trillion deficit. he said i have not done anything yet. >> we can not keep looking our children in the eye knowing that we're going to give them a diminished future because we're spending their money today. it is a very simple idea. mayor ron and i am going to bring it to washington. we have to stop spending money we do not have. we must cut spending. we must get this balanced budget. we must get this debt under control. >> congressman paul ryan and joe biden will face off in their only debate. martha margaret. you can watch and engage with our live in debate preview starting seven got p.m. eastern filed by the debate at 9:00. your reaction at and 30 p.m. -- at 10:30 p.m. >> c-span's debate website provides life and on demand coverage of all the presidential and vice- presidential debate. is on a place for you will see live coverage before and after the debate. it has each debate question as a separate. what your critics clips as well and read streaming tweets from political reporters. go to c-span.org
you're going to have $1 trillion deficit. he said i have not done anything yet. >> we can not keep looking our children in the eye knowing that we're going to give them a diminished future because we're spending their money today. it is a very simple idea. mayor ron and i am going to bring it to washington. we have to stop spending money we do not have. we must cut spending. we must get this balanced budget. we must get this debt under control. >> congressman paul ryan and joe biden...
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we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. >> i suppose mr. romney thought the president wouldn't recognize the term trickle-down if he twisted it around. romney is proposing boilerplate trickle-down economics providing tax relief for businesses with the false hope that they won pocket that money but rather put it into new jobs. help the rich get richer and then they'll help everyone else. but hey, mr. romney's plan as stated in the debate may in fact sound right to you. but don't call it new. it's a been there, done that track record. lower taxes on the rich, simply don't lead to job growth. when you compare the top marginal income tax rate, the tax rate that top earners get taxed over the highest threshold with employment, growth happens when taxes are higher, not lower. let me show you a chart that the president could have used this week to simplify the whole debate. this is what the election boils down to right here. larry bartels' chart makes
we ended up moving from surplus to deficits. and it all culminated in the worst financial crisis since the great depression. >> i suppose mr. romney thought the president wouldn't recognize the term trickle-down if he twisted it around. romney is proposing boilerplate trickle-down economics providing tax relief for businesses with the false hope that they won pocket that money but rather put it into new jobs. help the rich get richer and then they'll help everyone else. but hey, mr....
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yeah president obama promise to get our spending under control by cutting the deficits in half. he also was so confident that shortly after taking office, president obama said he would fix the economy in three years or face a one term proposition. today he has broken those promises. now his words have no credibility. midway to the debate, the president realized that he had an president for the past four years and it was his policies and his agenda that failed to produce any of the results that a promised us as a candidate. president obama had not shown the kind of leadership we need. the face crisis today. which requires a steady hand. in a leader focus on the job. a president obama's focus has been on saving his own job. as party chairman, i understand that the president must campaign. but he also has a job to do. while barack obama enjoys being president, he does not seem to enjoy the work required in being a great president. for example, he has not bother to meet with his own jobs council since january. however, he has found the time for a lavish campaign fund- raisers, 140 c
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. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it. color lock technology. exclusively from your benjamin moore retailer. find your perfect color with a buy one, get one pint offer. visit benjaminmoore.com/promo. >>> well, mitt romney is not backing off of his attacks of president obama's economic policies, no matter what the latest jobs report says. he told a florida crowd last night that the president is out of ideas and says wednesday's debate proved that. >> he got a chance to explain his jobs program. how he's going to create new jobs in america. did you hear what he had to say? i didn't either. i kept looking for a specific plan as to what he was going to do to cr
. >>> coming up, new polls out today show mitt romney with a double-digit deficit in his running mate's home state. we will give you the latest spread on that. >>> but first, which president obama is preparing to emerge at the next debate? we'll talk to his campaign's vice chairwoman, next. this is msnbc. ♪ most paints have color that sits on the surface. but nothing beats benjamin moore's color lock technology that locks color right in, no matter how often you wash it....
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and the deficit is now 1.1 trillion. that was also came out yesterday morning. >> another barometer people always look at, too. is food stamps. 2009 what did we have 33.5 million, right? and then in 2010, 40.3. last year 44.7. and look at this year already. 46.8 million. that's as of july. >> big jump. >> yeah, so are companies hiring? that could be the good sign that companies are hiring. you want to have some good news, right? and it's hard because you are seeing manufacturing though for the second straight month also slipping. that's a sign of the strengthening economy as well which is getting the economy moving. >> but for people who don't pay attention. you know, you look at that number 7.8. things are turning around. >> are your pants ringing? >> is that my -- it is my phone. hold on a second. >> i'm hearing a 1940s style phone ringing it must be mike's phone. >> wait a second. let me take this call. can you do headlines or something? wait a second i wanted to order a pizza. >> we do have a fox news alert. because
and the deficit is now 1.1 trillion. that was also came out yesterday morning. >> another barometer people always look at, too. is food stamps. 2009 what did we have 33.5 million, right? and then in 2010, 40.3. last year 44.7. and look at this year already. 46.8 million. that's as of july. >> big jump. >> yeah, so are companies hiring? that could be the good sign that companies are hiring. you want to have some good news, right? and it's hard because you are seeing...
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. >> your sign reduce deficit. and you shout nod blood for oil. and you were chained to a health organization. what's your message. >> well, -- so. wrong building ununclear message. at least he reached the people. >> how long before someone noticed you. 18 hours. >> [laughter] >> why do you think people ignored you. >> i think people don't like to think about the troubles in the international spectrum right now. >> not because you were below sidewalk level? [laughter] >> he brought me to the place where for some reason no one saw him. you were chained where? >> just to this door handle here. >> was the was the sign here. >> yes, actually. >> did you read the sign. >> after i locked to the door handled. >> yes. after he locked to the door handled. but every good protester has a con ting sei plan. >> qhow found out you were in the wrong place you unlocked yourself and moved. no. i didn't have the key. >> i . >> i left it in the car. i was using. >> in the car probably next to the fish ticket. [laughter] then 18 hours later, offer worker larry clark
. >> your sign reduce deficit. and you shout nod blood for oil. and you were chained to a health organization. what's your message. >> well, -- so. wrong building ununclear message. at least he reached the people. >> how long before someone noticed you. 18 hours. >> [laughter] >> why do you think people ignored you. >> i think people don't like to think about the troubles in the international spectrum right now. >> not because you were below sidewalk...
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apparently, this with big bird is driving the deficit in rallies are completely different events from a presidential debate. body language, now cured the my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition. and he has an extreme make over. mitt romney was checked by his campaign. >> and also talk about his 47% fund-raiser that never was mentioned. >> real change takes time and it certainly cannot happen if you are going to write off one of thalf the nation before you take office. >> perhaps he lost the debate on performance. >> no question. >> he did win on the substance and the candid it. his candid it--is going to be a candidate--is campaigning and other states. >> we will be talking about a body language expert carole gomen.. and we will study their body language that will be tomorrow morning. >> based on what everybody said we could calculate what they think is coming through. still to come on kron 4 news this week and the former butler to pope benedict. he will learn his fate on stealing documents and linking them to the media up your >> this beautiful picture from mt. ta
apparently, this with big bird is driving the deficit in rallies are completely different events from a presidential debate. body language, now cured the my opponent has been trying to do a two-step and reposition. and he has an extreme make over. mitt romney was checked by his campaign. >> and also talk about his 47% fund-raiser that never was mentioned. >> real change takes time and it certainly cannot happen if you are going to write off one of thalf the nation before you take...
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. >> when he was asked how he would actually cut spending and reduce the deficit, he said he'd go after funding for public television. elmo, you better make a run for it. >> reporter: on the stump in virginia, romney says the jobless numbers don't tell the whole story. too many workers, he says, have simply stopped looking. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down, not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work force, but because we're creating more jobs. >> reporter: with the unexpected drop, some saw a conspiracy. former general electric chairman jack welch seemed to accuse the obama campaign of cooking the books, tweeting unbelievable jobs numbers. these chicago guys will do anything. can't debate, so change numberns. later on "hardball", welch admitted he has no evidence to back that up, but he remained defiant. >> i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. it seems coincidental that one month before the election they would end up at 7.8. >> reporter: the charge was met with outrage from many, including the presid
. >> when he was asked how he would actually cut spending and reduce the deficit, he said he'd go after funding for public television. elmo, you better make a run for it. >> reporter: on the stump in virginia, romney says the jobless numbers don't tell the whole story. too many workers, he says, have simply stopped looking. >> when i'm president of the united states, that unemployment rate is going to come down, not because people are giving up and dropping out of the work...